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@0xNairolf This is usually what happens too. Monad had heavy push for devs to build apps on their chain.

@0xNairolf That is what Megaeth tried to do. Some apps left some fumbled but it is an expensive endeavor

@0xNairolf @StarkWareLtd has been doing this actively most of the year now and going forward

@0xNairolf hey Nairolf you should looking at our app too yielna.xyz I hope you'll like our idea and if you have any question that I'll be happy to assist you

@0xNairolf im sure ur talking about base

@0xNairolf SW coded

@0xNairolf yeah.. apps are the end game.. in the end

reason why L2s dont have users has nothing to do with building apps or not it has a lot to do with caring enough about what users want when the work is not glamorous and accepting Ls when responses are subpar and that "caring enough" does not happen with managing a slop-farm with 50-copy paste apps the incentive to do that is nil when you can just sell tokens and hop between jobs. l2s often do not have products that "own" something - its the same curse at late stage tech orgs except late stage tech orgs usually built something to get there

@0xNairolf the L2 version of throwing spaghetti at the wall but with better gas fees

@0xNairolf the app-first approach flips the usual L2 playbook instead of chasing builders with grants, they chase users directly and let builders follow

@0xNairolf yeah the app-first approach is the only real moat for L2s

@0xNairolf a killer app beats another incentive program every time

@0xNairolf Which teams are already doing this and what apps have they shipped?

@0xNairolf L2s may need to create their own demand instead of waiting for builders to do it one successful app can bring in users and kickstart the rest of the ecosystem.

@0xNairolf It is supposed to be other way round. The thesis of Appchain is app+chain, not chain+app. Proven by the fact that only two successful L2s are Base & Robinhood. If app building were easy, L2 builders won’t have launched chains first.

@0xNairolf My theory 2 years ago was that the loosers of the L1 and L2 wars would pivot to application based ecosystems - abstracted from any one layer.

@0xNairolf The tradeoff is you instantly become the biggest competitor to the third-party devs you’re trying to attract. Hard to build a platform while frontrunning it.

@0xNairolf I think I’'d rather see an L2 build something people actually want than spend a year subsidizing TVL

@0xNairolf we watched a robot arm play flappy bird on a touchscreen for two hours while the team debugged a sim-to-real gap in the gripper firmware