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We had been trying to take down a fake DefiLlama app on apple’s store for months, telling Apple about trademark violations, impersonation… Then we loaded a small wallet, downloaded the app, got drained as expected and reported it to Apple. App was taken down in days after that

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Brighty (♟️,♟️) @0xbrighty ·

@0xngmi I downloaded mine from the X page so I’m pretty confident, can never be too sure tho😂

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泰坦链 | DeFi @TiTan_Web3_ · D

@0xngmi Apple needs proof

- @valley_rafter · D

@0xngmi Funny how Apple only moves when the wallet gets drained Real money talks louder than trademark complaints

Hypatia (🌸, 🌿) @Hypatiars ·

@0xngmi Big respect🫡

gyukatsu.hl @gyukatsu_maxi · D

@0xngmi Proof-of-drain as the only escalation path that works. Apple's review process enforced by loss, not policy. Wild that the exploit was the compliance tool.

ross.wei @z0r0zzz · 31K A

@0xngmi wtf

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MilliΞ @llamaonthebrink · 16K A

@0xngmi Out of curiosity, how did the draining work? Did the app just ask you to input your seed?

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@0xngmi I recall a similar fake app incident in Japan with a major bank, taking direct action like loading a wallet to prove fraud is often the only way to get a response.

The Serenity Research @SerenityFund ·

@0xngmi Money speaks Nobody give a shit about trademark

Noveleader 🏰 @noveleader ·

@0xngmi that’s hilarious and concerning at the same time

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Lee Ash @hazae41 ·

@0xngmi So you can create a fake app if it doesn't scam users

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Tigran Hakhunts @THakhunts ·

@0xngmi Btw, thanks a lot for Defillama swap, best aggregator of aggregators I'd say "gator of all then gaters"

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enzo 🍊 🛡️ @enzomcfly543 ·

@0xngmi What about polymtrade app ?

MJ.algo 🇺🇸 @AlgoFamily · 46K

@0xngmi Enjoy the grind. Thanks for the hustle.

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Raj ₿ @rarefilmsinc ·

@0xngmi There's an fake wasabi wallet which is still live on appstore. A user lost 6 bitcoins due to it.

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qazzaq.eth @qazzaq_eth · D

@0xngmi reporting the drain to apple was the practical move that finally worked

Tushant Suneja @tushant_suneja · B

@0xngmi apple's takedown process only moves fast when you show them money on the line, trademark violations aren't enough, what's the actual threshold for swift action

Slark @Slark_Sol · D

@0xngmi So Apple only acted after an actual loss was demonstrated That says a lot about how seriously they take these reports

notsoholymary @n0tsoholymary ·

@0xngmi love it!

Agustin @ACsstyle · A

@0xngmi seems like you need to be very direct with Apple team xD they shouldve taken it down faster though

MEYE - WEB4 @meyefoundation ·

@0xngmi do the same with @TheArena

Ash @ahboyash · 33K A

@0xngmi bruh crazy you had to send a proof of drain lmao

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CITADEL WOLF ⛰️🐺🥷 @citadelwolff · 32K A

@0xngmi how the hell did it get approved wtf lol

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Lou @0xLouz · 24K D

@0xngmi Apple’s security model: a drained wallet is stronger evidence

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Anndy Lian @anndylian · 193K

@0xngmi I spot them too on android. Same vibe coding bs

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Ali Sherief @Zenul_Abidin · D

@0xngmi Apple only seems to care about reports when someone loses money.

Adel Bucetta @adelbucetta · D

@0xngmi the reason most people don't get it is they think reporting infringement is enough, but until someone gets hurt financially or reputationally, apple often doesn't care

Kaps @0xKaps · D

@0xngmi the fact that they literally waited for someone to get drained before taking action is insane.

militereum @militereum ·

@0xngmi It helps to have a legit app in the Apple Store because then Apple will take your takedown requests more seriously.

Artem @a_galunov ·

@0xngmi modern problems require modern solutions

Victor @zeroexvictor ·

@0xngmi How did they even get in the app store? They're not even approving us with a legit wallet

Michael Egorov @newmichwill · 43K

@0xngmi Interesting method!

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Mila_arty @mila_arty · D

@0xngmi wild that it took an actual drain to get action

Antonio Gomes @onchainantonio · D

@0xngmi Months of trademark complaints get filed and forgotten. One drained wallet gets a response in days. These review processes are built to react to proof of loss

TheRealKlaudie @TKlaudie ·

@0xngmi Can you publish on app store without any KYC from Apple?

uh @uhr3al · C

@0xngmi don’t drain me bro

DarkLord_gr | DeFi Dojo @DarkLord_gr · C

@0xngmi Good thinking, thanks for keeping us safe

Amadeus @0xAmadeus12 ·

@0xngmi lol, a sacrifice the community needs

Cluster Protocol @ClusterProtocol · 88K D

@0xngmi having to sacrifice a live crypto wallet to get apple to remove malicious impersonators is absurd

Canborsa @Canborsa_DEX · 28K A

@0xngmi bureaucracy and its consequences x.com/Canborsa_DEX/status/2088…

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Dan🦙💨 @Danoncrypto ·

@0xngmi Whoa, didn’t expect that…..Master Mind🧠 x.com/Danoncrypto/status/20885…

Dmitry | DeFi Vibe @0xZloiZayats · D

@0xngmi Painful but kinda genius. App stores moved faster after financial damage than after months of identity proof, completely backwards incentives.

Takumi @Takumixbt · D

@0xngmi 1000 iq move

@0xngmi you basically pen tested apples review process

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Nabla @localoptimum11 ·

@0xngmi Yeah, Apple is a joke

RomanWagmi @romanwagmi · D

wild that the working escalation path was get drained and file a fraud report. trademark complaints rot in a queue, a drain report touches apple's liability so it moves in days. the darker part: a vibecoded seed phisher passed app review while legit wallets get rejected over payment rules. review is optimized for apple's cut, not for whether the thing asking for your seed is real

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A @Fxrgw · D

@0xngmi how small was the small wallet cos if that's the high prob timeline for takedowns den that small wallet loss might end up what they farm for

P₳UL K @seal_kiman · C

@0xngmi Instant karma for misrepresenting TVL.

Ewok @Cryptowok1 ·

@0xngmi Surely any user that got drained by that since you first reported it to apple has strong grounds for suing apple 🤷‍♂️

WiiMee @wiimee · B

@0xngmi Been dealing with this issue for @RevokeCash too, and the fake ones are still up.

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Brighty (♟️,♟️) @0xbrighty ·

Ok ok, currently it’s just the llama Ai I can use tho, no dashboards and stuff. Btw about revenue defensibility for stablecoins, it’s really an interesting aspect I feel hasn’t been explored properly, even tho I emailed that Sunday, this has really led me down several rabbit holes and I’m currently trying to verify my proposed framework empirically, happy to share with you, if it’s something that still piques your interest that is!

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ross.wei @z0r0zzz · 31K A

@0xngmi nah just crazy negligent of apple glad uh you got that uh sorted!

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WiiMee @wiimee · B

@0xngmi @RevokeCash Will do, thx

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