@jheioff They will not comply with law enforcement or even court orders, we fighting them since years to comply with court orders to return stolen assets. Guess what they never comply instead they send us legal threats through thier lawyers. @Han_Gate hired lawyers to threaten us.
@jheioff I support you, bro. Gate's too many crazy moves will eventually get him killed. @Han_Gate When are you going to shut down that single-player game you're using?
@jheioff You can also use magic to defeat magic and open the box with Dr. Han's information, but the problem is you don't have Dr. Han's personal information. Gate has registered user information, so they can check and use it at will. This kind of risk control system could easily sell user information, which is really scary.
@jheioff They've already filed a criminal case, yet they're still trying to stir up trouble with accusations of a "honey trap." This PR move is really ugly.
@jheioff I suggest you change your residence soon. They have your address and have already opened the box. Beware of further malicious acts; your personal safety is very important.
@jheioff I've been searching for the original tweet for ages but haven't found it. I only saw a blurred Telegram message. Here's the link: x.com/aben317/status/208457284…
@jheioff Are you and the exchange idiots? Do you even have any evidence? Do you have the Alipay login IP? Can you prove that the login IP when your Alipay account was hacked is different from your own IP? You're just being a spineless rogue with no evidence. You should at least provide some proof. It's easy to prove that the hacked Alipay IP isn't the same as your usual IP, right? You can just log in and take a screenshot. All you're saying is that Xi Jinping is your henchman.
@jheioff Start with Alipay. Both of your Alipay accounts have been hacked. Shouldn't you start by finding the source of the leak and prioritizing the cause, instead of arguing?
@jheioff Both sides are avoiding the questions. His side claims you leaked screen recordings from two Alipay accounts. Your side claims you forged your ID and facial recognition. But neither side is directly addressing the questions raised by either side. 😀😀😀
@jheioff With so much money in the bank, if you want to transfer it out, the bank manager has to come knocking on your door with rice and oil the next day. I'm just curious, doesn't this exchange have a VIP support team to care about withdrawing so much money?
@jheioff You idiot, didn't they notify you when you initiated the withdrawal? What were you doing for four whole days? Were you blind or did the withdrawal just happen by default? Now you're blaming the platform? You're a real piece of trash.
@jheioff has already bribed several influential figures to smear you. They've posted several smear campaigns today, hoping you'll see them and refute them. I want to see their responses.
@jheioff suggests trying it out on various exchanges. When verifying your account, put on makeup, or even disguise yourself when withdrawing funds. Ideally, wear a silicone headgear. If you fool the exchange during the withdrawal, immediately report them online and claim you were hacked.
Let me offer you a suggestion: The only way to clear your platform of all responsibility right now is to report the incident to the police, alleging the victim conspired with the hacker to commit fraud, and let the police be the final arbiter. While your response didn't explicitly state this, the implication is clear. If this is the case, the Chinese cyber police are not to be underestimated; they will definitely investigate thoroughly and clear your platform's name. If the police investigation confirms the victim was not involved with the hacker, why shouldn't you compensate them? As your platform lists: (account, email, phone number, name, ID card, initial registration date 2018, initial registration location, transaction records, screen recordings of two Alipay accounts, confirming Alipay login, 4-day advance phone and SMS notifications, and withdrawal delay protection). Such a complex verification process failed to prevent the theft of customer funds. Unless the victim colluded with the hacker, this complex process is essentially useless; in fact, the more complex it is, the less secure it is. The more supporting documents required for withdrawals, the more vulnerabilities there are—this is common social engineering knowledge. Don't you know this? Therefore, don't bother with excuses; report it to the police directly! Only a police report will have genuine credibility. There are two possible outcomes: the victim colluded with the hacker to commit fraud—your platform will not only bear no responsibility but also gain a positive image of fighting criminals! However, even if it wasn't a conspiracy, you should still fully compensate the victim. The money should be returned to whoever held it—this has always been the principle. Why are you making an exception?
Finally: @jheioff@Gate_zh
Do you dare let them report it to the police?
@jheioff There are two issues here: one is that the user's Alipay account was stolen, and the other is a security vulnerability in Gate. Although both parties share responsibility, the money was held by Gate, so regardless of the outcome, Gate bears the primary responsibility.
Honestly, bro, it's going to be difficult for you to get your money back. Gate's current strategy of putting 340 million on the blockchain is to block out some KOLs who only care about getting paid, and then slowly let it cool down and drag it out. If they really wanted compensation, they should have paid out immediately after it was confirmed that it was a theft. If the subsequent investigation shows it was fraud on your end, this amount would definitely be enough to file a case. All platforms know your information.
Gate is just unwilling to admit this right now. If they did, it would prove that their risk control system has been breached. The internet has no memory, and this issue will eventually die down. The platform can then spend a little money to hire those so-called KOLs to run some ads, and the storm will be over.
Right now, all I can do is share and comment to keep the issue going, otherwise it will definitely just fade away.
@jheioff Why don't you share your thought process so everyone can see things clearly? The most important issue, the Alipay screen recording, wasn't discussed; the fact that you haven't checked SMS, email, and app notifications for a long time wasn't discussed either. Are these all coincidences, or are you avoiding the issues?
@jheioff Dude, what's the point of getting emotional here? Do you think arguing online will speed things up? Mr. Fu already told you he could provide you with free legal aid, but you ignored it and just kept dragging it out.
@jheioff There are too many trolls in the comments section, mostly just stirring up trouble. Not a single one is discussing the fundamental issues. We should focus on the police's progress, find out who is responsible, and then determine the nature of the case. Han Lin has already promised double compensation.
@jheioff Just post a picture of which devices logged into your Alipay account. It's likely an inside job; how could a hacker possibly access your Alipay account?
@jheioff I hope there will be a result soon. This back-and-forth replying without any real progress, everyone has their own reasons, and it's hard for the onlookers to judge.
@jheioff You son of a bitch, you haven't mentioned your Alipay business at all, what's wrong? Are you feeling guilty? Did the police send a letter to Alipay to retrieve your IP address, device, and facial recognition data, so they can arrest you and sentence you to life imprisonment?
@jheioff First, investigate all the possible suspects on your end. See where the Alipay account was accessed from and what device it was accessed from. You haven't mentioned any of that. Can't you provide some useful information? The real work involves listing out the useful information.
@jheioff It's like a thief breaking into your house, using your original key to unlock it, stealing all your money, and then you demand compensation from the lock brand? That's hilarious.
@jheioff I've figured it out. This is a scheme orchestrated by the gatekeeper to treat your money as its own. It's a self-directed act by the gatekeeper to legally turn users' money into their own. Even though they're using fake IDs, it doesn't matter. What a great thief crying "stop thief!"
@jheioff With Alipay, you should be able to check the device and time of login from different locations, right? See if it's a device belonging to someone you know?
@btchuobibtc@jheioff I think I guessed it, it was deleted too quickly
Many people didn't see it
I only saw a censored picture
Why didn't the victim post it to show their true colors?
@goodluckherolee@jheioff Do you think Gate.js can't find people to cause trouble in China? They have plenty of ways to mess with bloggers, and since Gate.js is overseas, their iron fist can't reach them.
@cohen21500718@jheioff Just because Gate is overseas doesn't mean its reach into China is also overseas. If they really want to open boxes, make threats, or harass, the targets are still people, accounts, and communication records within China. While the overseas entities may be difficult to trace, the chain of enforcement within China cannot escape them, and the same applies to entities registered overseas.
@YSH42762125@realmaxluo@jheioff The premise is that the hacker used fake identity information to modify all security authentications, which is where Gate.io's problem lies. Then, when withdrawing funds, Gate.io allowed the withdrawal based on the victim's Alipay information.
@jheioff Bro, you're a seasoned veteran in the crypto world. Right now, you only have two options: admit it or deny it. If you deny it, you'll have to go all out against him.
@jheioff@feixiaohaocom@grok You should tweet a breakdown of the hacker's process of stealing funds, how the hacker altered their security information using handheld authentication, at which step the Alipay information leak affected withdrawals, and whether the Alipay information leak was the most crucial link in the entire process. Make it clear where the problems lie; otherwise, Gate will keep pointing fingers at one thing and another.
@qianxishequ I'm just a small investor with elderly parents and young children, how can I possibly compete with him? I just hope Dr. Han will have a change of heart and give me a way out 😭
@Sakura94150958@jheioff When other information cannot verify whether the operator is the account holder, using old C2C orders to anchor the corresponding Alipay account, along with registration location and time, can allow hacking into the gateway to steal information. But how could it be possible that even the Alipay account "coincidentally" belongs to a C2C account that is rarely used? Modern human civilization relies on the spirit of contracts/that is, honesty and trustworthiness. Ask yourself if you think Alipay is trustworthy or not?
Dude, I'm not just taking your side. I'm just a nobody, but I've seen many influential figures speak out. I believe what people disapprove of is GATE's response. They disapprove of the direct use of multiple accounts to mock users, the unboxing of users, and the evasive tactics. Many of these influential figures actually earn far less from their influence than from trading a couple of times and arbitrageing. The reason they remain active on social media is because they're afraid of being hacked by exchanges one day. Users are always extremely vulnerable when facing exchanges. The only way for users to truly succeed is through tacit unity to force exchanges to comply with regulations and protect user assets. All the past cases and countless influential figures speaking out are so that if they encounter problems one day, they won't be harassed or pressured by PR teams, and they'll still have others to speak up for them.
Back to your case, if it's real, I sincerely hope you can get your money back; it's genuine hard work.
If it's fake, then you've really taught GATE a lesson.
@Wk71355023@jheioff@Han_Gate@Gate_zh@Gate I was just answering your question about the source. Gate definitely knows the source is Alipay real money top-up, otherwise why would they require Alipay transaction records?
