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Just want to point out a few things wrong/missing from this analysis to give a more informed take: The takes on being a bucket shop are silly so won't even respond to that. I don't believe there is some "Holy" level of leverage to offer that the CME has mastered. The key is safety and being able to properly liquidate positions. People trading on high leverage want high leverage, period. Crypto Share of Volume: Share relative to Binance is making fresh highs. Still at just 15%. Keep in mind since this is a % of Binance rather than a % of the whole, this can go above 100% in best case scenario (not saying this is likely). AQAv2: 90% of the yield from USDC is being used to buy back HYPE. This is known but the flows don't start until October. Addition of $150-200M to ARR. HyperCore Priority Fees: This was essentially 0 two months ago and a $20M ARR currently. This has a lot of room to grow potentially and is yet another signal that when this team ships, there is immediate uptake and boost to revenue. HyperEVM network fees: burning around $1M HYPE/month Ticker auctions: burning around $2.5M/year HIP-4: brand new, currently no significant contribution. Kalshi and Polymarket have demonstrated PMF for Prediction Markets. I personally am not very bullish on this sector but maybe I'm wrong. HIP-5 and beyond: the team continues to ship and most things they ship see real uptake. I could imagine them eventually launching options among other things. The Regulatory Fork: Most serious money is still not allowed to use Hyperliquid. Hedge Funds are locked out because of LP agreements, and MMers for regulatory reasons. Opening up the market to America and to serious professionals like HFs/MMers. This would be tremendously bullish on volumes and liquidity. I call it a "fork" because the downside case is they get lawfared out forever. If this is your thesis, I implore you to watch this recent interview that I will link below with the CFTC chair. Hyperliquid as a Liquidity Backend: we have already seen large uptake of builder codes as consumer-facing products such as Phantom and Fomo offer perps to users in their frontends via their builder codes. The best case scenario for Hyperliquid is that it becomes one of the liquidity backends for traditional brokers and MMers. If Hyperliquid can continue offering better pricing than CME (as they do on BTC/ETH/SOL futures), this could become a large source of future volume in the good regulatory scenarios. Staking Rewards and Community Tokens: Lazy analysis values HYPE at its fully diluted value. More careful analysis realizes 1) most emissions go directly to existing token holders 2) future community emissions (nearly 40% of fully diluted supply) may never happen, partially happen, or be redirected to stakers over N number of years. If 1 HYPE staked today = 2 HYPE staked in N years, the price is effectively halved today (ignoring tax distortions). The circulating cap is around $17B today, and this isn't backing out any supply, including that owned by Hyperliquid Strategies DAT, which is presumably off the market. Hyperliquid.

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Evanss6 @Evan_ss6 · 65K

All relevant data is available here from ASXN See quoted tweet for CFTC chair comments hyperscreener.asxn.xyz x.com/Evan_ss6/status/20666150…

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mikey @0xbigmikey ·

@Evan_ss6 Hyperliquid

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Etna Alpha @etnaalphaio ·

@Evan_ss6 Latency matters, but the bigger unlock is what arrives at that latency. Raw depth/trades are useful, but your system still has to reconstruct state. Etna is built so the market read arrives already structured: state, tags, reasons, confidence, evidence, replay cursor, routes.

shooter.eth @phuktep ·

@Evan_ss6 hyperliquid

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tardflush @Joeblowhoho ·

@Evan_ss6 Tldr: jeff is him Also, Andy needs a "so true king" at the bottom of his post

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chain native @ChainNative ·

@Evan_ss6 imo the hidden lever is liquidation design, not the leverage number

Busy Panda 🍉 @Crypt0Panda ·

@Evan_ss6 how will HL ever offer better price on US markets while being hosted in Tokyo even adding the priority access doesn't best the physical latency. MM on CME all have literal fixed fiber length to maintain fairness, hard to see them throwing all that out for a black box

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Sarah @Sarah_Pump_AI ·

@Evan_ss6 Leverage isn't the edge. Liquidation design is.

AZKicks @RealAZKicks ·

@Evan_ss6 Brother why am I getting farmed 😭 (jk)

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horndog @horndogdothl ·

@Evan_ss6 hyperliquid

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flowmaxxin @flowmaxxin ·

@Evan_ss6 Ok but all trades are still done by crypto natives and not tradfi using HL yet

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tradingtulips🌷 @tradingtulips ·

@Evan_ss6 a lot of confusion surrounding HL still i guess

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Mister Todd @pondermint ·

@Evan_ss6 @Mamba248x Well done.

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+60.24.7.365+ 🇺🇲 @LiQuidPr0Qu0 ·

The trade here is how TradFi is shedding $CBOE and $ICE outa plain old fear 😨 $HYPE faces all kinds of market entry barriers with regs that these firms are past yet they can duplicate whatever markets that $HYPE has captured and grow their own platforms Regulators are NOT going to allow massive leverage like is seen on Hyperliquid

Shual @0xShual · 32K

@Evan_ss6 good retort, but honestly, the guy ended his whole shpiel with 'risk 40 to make 330, meh' which tells anyone who's read that all they need to know really

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Homer @Sniff_Sniff3 ·

@Evan_ss6 Let them have their views. We need bears to make the market

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Moos @Moosr0se ·

@Evan_ss6 Hyperliquid

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Fro Kwon @fro_kwon ·

@Evan_ss6 Flood clear your desk. Evanss is taking your job.

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HazeFi @HazeFund ·

@Evan_ss6 Excellent analysis. Will finish reading later. Thank you Evans for this great thread.

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Ave @avemoongod ·

@Evan_ss6 re HIP-4: think we eventually see institutional level hedging using binary options but not yet. will drastically beat out polymarket and kalshi (both dogshit businesses) and hopefully beat our retail naturally over time as well

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Callum @CallumOnCrypto ·

@Evan_ss6 Great take

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20Log @_Between_Names ·

@Evan_ss6 Hyperliquid

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Z.C. @UWZC ·

@Evan_ss6 “Lazy analysis values HL at its full diluted value” - could argue using circulating supply at $17 billion is equally as lazy. Hyperliquid strategies has merged the 2 and made their metric of “outstanding token supply” which measures hyperliquid at $31.3 billion at $65.78 hype

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Kadar (calm arc) @Kadar1 ·

@Evan_ss6 great comeback and forward looking takes

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Schlitz @19bernie ·

@Evan_ss6 🫡

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MP @MPOffshore ·

@Evan_ss6 the real fork is regulatory, not narrative. when funds and market makers are boxed out by mandate, liquidity is not a demand problem yet. it is an access problem with lawyers standing at the door. hyperliquid.

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Kishan Shah @kishan__shah · 40K

@Evan_ss6 I love $HYPE, but ADL is straight out of bucket shops (Reminiscences of a Stock Operator) x.com/kishanshah/status/206851…

G00DB0Y.hl ❄️ @GG00DB0Y ·

@Evan_ss6 Hyperliquid

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Seeking Alpha, Master Beta @seekAmasterbeta ·

@Evan_ss6 I get the bull case, but treating it as a foregone conclusion is misguided. There remains significant path dependency and entrenched interests to untangle — This is the same ICE that was glazing HYPE's tech while being salty about the reg arb. bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…

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GRIZLI.hl @fitnessrebornn ·

@Evan_ss6 thanks Evan

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basedpotato @bas3dp0tat6 ·

@Evan_ss6 he’s bearish but literally for all the wrong reasons lmfao and wtf risk 40 to make 330 sure where do i take that bet?

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0zGeaka.Base @ozgeakn95 ·

@Evan_ss6 He needs a little attention! Fed is destined to talk tough, but act weak... x.com/ozgeakn95/status/2068749…

PresentJack @PresentJack2 ·

@Evan_ss6 @0xSisyphus Imagine if instead of these long posts it would actually be price talking instead.

Kavinja @cucheems123 ·

@Evan_ss6 the regulatory fork is the real make or break here honestly, good read tho!!

nany.eth @alw4lnany ·

@Evan_ss6 tfw the bear case for hyperliquid is just betting against human capital 🥲

Ktown | Btc Maxi @KtownSexyindian ·

@Evan_ss6 tfw evan casually writes the thesis for you 🫡

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AZKicks @RealAZKicks ·

@Evan_ss6 Personal view - rates are flat or very moderately lower but base case is no real change any time soon. Linear mostly as a function of simplifying that there’s no real case where AQAv2 revs decrease without stable TVL decreasing bc it won’t come from the rate side.

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AZKicks @RealAZKicks ·

@Evan_ss6 That said you’re correct that’s how the math works. Regardless of rate changes I think stable supply increases faster than rates decrease, and if rates were to increase for some reason then it really pushes up AQAv2 revs. (Which I don’t think is likely).

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+60.24.7.365+ 🇺🇲 @LiQuidPr0Qu0 ·

@Evan_ss6 @Joeblowhoho Ofc you're blocked he's an arrogant douchebag tbh

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Evanss6 @Evan_ss6 · 65K

@LiQuidPr0Qu0 @Joeblowhoho He blocked me after I copypasta’d this post, which was in May 2025. This was a generationally bad call, wrong on p much everything (especially earnings, which are by far the most important for stocks). x.com/Evan_ss6/status/20684106…

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Seeking Alpha, Master Beta @seekAmasterbeta ·

@Evan_ss6 The outcome is clear - Hype will eventually be brought under the US' regulatory orbit. Maybe a temp innovation exemption. Best case for Hype is for it to strike a deal with one of the incumbents. Other wildcard is the % of Hype's activity that comes from non-KYCed US users.

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