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Riccardo Spagni
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Most CEXs have been treating Monero users as guilty-until-proven-innocent for years. Touch XMR and your withdrawal gets frozen, your account flagged - all in the name of "compliance" - which is often more compliance theatre🙃 Mad respect to the holdouts like Kraken who have done their best to push back, but they've even had to pull support for Monero in some jurisdictions. Here's my view. Centralised exchanges were never going to play nice for the sake of it. They're beholden to regulators who treat financial privacy as inherently criminal. None of this should surprise anyone. A solution that I'm advising, and that many of you know has me excited about its potential, is Wagyu (by @PerpetualCow). The whole schtick there is to have Monero tradeable on @HyperliquidX - which means no freeze risk. I know that Hyperliquid is largely a venue for traders, but for ordinary users that means they can deposit ETH, BTC, SOL, USDC, or USDT, swap for XMR, and withdraw that straight to their own wallet. If you were around Monero in its earliest days, before any exchange added it we used a thread on BitcoinTalk for OTC trades, and then someone setup a dedicated exchange (if memory serves it was bmr<dot>exchange<dot>to or something like that?) - dedicated exchanges have always had an edge that general exchanges can never have, and Wagyu+Hyperliquid is no different. It's already the biggest exchange for XMR by a wide margin - both as an XMR-only exchange, and it's creeping up on Kucoin in terms of volume. If you actually use Monero (ie. not as a speculative vehicle), this is the easiest on-ramp we've had in a very long time. I’m ecstatic about the work we’re doing to make it more robust, and more decentralised! app.wagyu.xyz

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SLOT.WIN @SlotWinX · 14K

@fluffypony the compliance dance is so real. some things just need to stay private big respect to those still supporting it

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Monerica @MonericaProject ·

@fluffypony We’d add it to: moneropricenow.com but all pairs are USDT Tron. Is such a pair possible? We tried integrating but didn’t seem possible.

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Unstoppable | Privacy Wallet @unstoppablebyhs · 197K

@fluffypony THORChain will take the helm of DEX, will be available at swap.thorchain.org and unstoppable wallet the moment it goes live. The more venues there are the better ✊🏻

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criptodev @cripto_dev ·

@fluffypony add litecoin - XMR swap pair its more stable than solana...

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Mr. Cypherpunk @ABlastforever ·

@fluffypony What’s stopping them from adding spot monero deposits?

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King Alex @xmrltc ·

@fluffypony Litecoin and Monero are the best crypto coins. Unbeatable.

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Godzillionaires Club @godzillionaires ·

@fluffypony Why are people pushing so hard for zcash instead of monero?

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c3drik The Narwhal 💜🪳 @c3drikNarwhal ·

@fluffypony Just use @THORChain mate

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nouveaucrypto @nouveaucrypto ·

@fluffypony Hyperliquid can literally freeze you from withdrawing. Hyperliquid pseudo-decentralized at best and wagyu is centralized. Who can mint XMR1 again? Right.

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chaser @chaserxy ·

> no freeze risk. - one trusted bro (@PerpetualCow) can deny giving you the XMR or IOU token when you use the "bridge." - one trusted bro (@circle) can freeze ~99% of the stablecoin side of the Wagyu markets, because it's almost all USDC. - four trusted bros (entities controlling of >67% of the stake on Hyperliquid) can halt the whole blockchain (app.hyperliquid.xyz/staking/va…). you keep recklessly talking about this as if it was a decentralized exchange, which it is not, and evade answering how you will magically make it decentralized. why are you endorsing a scam instead of helping @SeraiDEX, @ferryswap, @RetoSwap, @HavenoDEX, @eigenwallet or @BasicSwapDEX?

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JazziKatz @jazzi18katz ·

@fluffypony Very true!

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Monerica @MonericaProject ·

@Typothetae8 @fluffypony USDT is more common.

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Typothetae @Typothetae8 ·

@MonericaProject @fluffypony Referring back to the second part of my question.

chaser @chaserxy ·

Thorchain is developed by people I have moral/professional issues with, which extends to their Monero integration. their base protocol was found unsound on multiple occasions, and what they do is copy @SeraiDEX code and vibecode-glue it to the current ball of mud to try to beat Serai to market. it looks horrible and it risks people losing their money. x.com/kayabaNerve/status/20415…

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₿ernanacatl @Bernanacatl ·

@chaserxy @fluffypony @PerpetualCow @circle @SeraiDEX Serai was taking toooo fucking long compared to promises. Has it been having active development?

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chaser @chaserxy ·

@Bernanacatl @fluffypony @PerpetualCow @circle @SeraiDEX as the tweet I linked states, it takes long because rushing work like this is irresponsible. regarding whether there is active development or not, decide for yourself: github.com/serai-dex/serai/com…

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